In the comments on my last post on this, Joyce asked a question and i wanted to make sure i’m being really clear on this one.
Joyce seems to bring what the Buddhists call a “beginner’s mind” to the blog world and this isn’t the first time one of her questions has sparked a whole post. This time she asks:
“Do you effect changes in behavior (pushing the limits) or “break” and completely restructure the basic personality of self to suit the Dom?”
So, i don’t know how one would completely restructure someone’s basic personality to suit the Dom, or to suit anyone. “Basic personality” {not a technical term} is a combination of temperament and early experiences. While you could damage someone so much that they no longer seemed like the same person, i can’t imagine that being anything positive. i think Mouse and Jade both make that point in their comments.
Mouse says:
We come here with our personal baggage, mouse’s baggage includes being broken and damaged by an uncaring dominant type.
i’m glad she says “dominant type” because i would argue that someone who abuses another is not “dominant” but simply abusive.
Jade says:
i have been broken in ways that destroyed my sense of joy, peace, excitement until i felt less than human
but then she goes on to say:
And that–has absolutely nothing– to do with what i think a slave is truly seeking when they are walking the path you speak of.
i was relieved to hear her say that, because it’s essential to recognize that when we’re talking about “being broken.” Even in the extremes of TTWD, there is a difference between M/s and abuse.
Getting back to Joyce’s question, LM asks for the experience of “being broken.” She says, “i want you to break me.”
Later, she goes back and defines that as:
Breaking me is pushing me past my boundaries, exploring my limits, making me cry, pushing me to painslut sub space where I completely rely on him to be everything in that moment, my tormentor and my savior, simultaneously. When I am there all the noise in my head stops and He rules…. a very simple, visceral place, that moment..
It reminds me of The Teachings of Don Juan, where the seeker finds oneness with universe through peyote. Some people may even reach their version of “that moment” through mindfulness.
But the key factor here is that LM wants this. Yes, her Dom originally says the words, but she wants it.
Joyce, i think you’re thinking about some kind of intense training in which a Dom might teach the slave to behave in certain ways. i would still argue that “basic personality” is not going to change, but i could be trained in ways that are pleasing to my Master.
“Being broken,” in my mind, is part of a spiritual journey of the submissive or slave, not for the benefit of the Master or Dominant. So the experience is not really about Him or Her, it’s about the slave.
This is only one of the ways that BDSM crosses paths with spirituality. Back when i saw Raven Kaldera’s workshop at Cope last year, i became more aware of and more comfortable with that concept.
And i’ve been thinking about it as we talking about “breaking,” so i was delighted to see that my friend, Ms. Constance, has blogged about the connection.
{Yes, ‘Nilla ~ our Ms. Constance has her blog up and running, isn’t that cool?}
You can read what she says here. i’m curious to see what youall think about what she says. And i’m glad to have the chance to introduce you to Ms. Constance. She’s interesting and funny and wise. i think you’ll like her.
In baby news ~ we have contractions, ~ well, my daughter does, not i, thank goodness ~ but they’re not regular yet. Maybe today… 🙂